Inequlities defination.

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Inequlities defination.

Unread post by Hasib » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:38 pm

Please, give the "accurate" defination of the following inequalities:
1.$ a \le b $
2.$ a\ge b$
3.$a \le b$
4.$a<x<b$
5.$a\le x<b$
6.$a \le x \le b$
7.$a< x\le b$


and, how u prove that, if
i)$a=b$
ii)$a<b$
iii)$a>b$
two of upper three is not true then the other one is true?
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Re: Inequlities defination.

Unread post by Hasib » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:11 pm

It's important.
Cause,i ask u to take (a,b) such that $a\nless b$ from the set $\{ 1,2,3,4,...14,15 \}$. Hence, this ques is same meaning to take (a,b) such that $a \ge b$ from the set $\{ 1,2,3,4....14,15 \}$.


But, if i ask u to prove that, $9R^2 \ge a^2+b^2+c^2$. This question isn't same meaning to prove $9R^2 \nless a^2+b^2+c^2$
hence R is circumradious and a,b,c are the hand of triangle
whats the matter?
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Re: Inequlities defination.

Unread post by tanvirab » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:09 am

$9R^2 \ge a^2+b^2+c^2$ and $9R^2 \nless a^2+b^2+c^2$ are the same.

I am not sure what you mean by "definition" of the statements.

The second part of your question is answered by the definition of real numbers. By definition, for any real number $a$ and $b$ either $a \leq b$ or $b \leq a$. So, at least one of the three statements you stated has to be true.

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Re: Inequlities defination.

Unread post by Hasib » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:29 pm

No bro.
$9R^2 \ge a^2+b^2+c^2$ is n't equal to $9R^2 \nless a^2+b^2+c^2$.
Because, $9R^2\ge a^2+b^2+c^2$ means that, $9R^2>a^2+b^2+c^2 \,or\,9R^2=a^2+b^2+c^2$

but, if i prove, $9R^2\nless a^2+b^2+c^2$, it also meant that $9R^2>a^2+b^2+c^2$ is true for all a,b,c. It also meant that only $9R^2=a^2+b^2+c^2$ is true for all a,b,c.
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Re: Inequlities defination.

Unread post by tanvirab » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:55 am

No, you are wrong. $A \nless B$ is same as $A \ge B$.
$A \nless B$ means $A$ is not less than $B$ i.e. $A$ is greater than or equal to $B$ i.e. $A \ge B$.

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Re: Inequlities defination.

Unread post by Hasib » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:09 pm

Oh, then what is meant by $a<>b$ ?
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Re: Inequlities defination.

Unread post by tanvirab » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:58 am

nothing. I have never seen $a<>b$.

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Re: Inequlities defination.

Unread post by Hasib » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:11 pm

It appeared in one bdmo question
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Re: Inequlities defination.

Unread post by tanvirab » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:17 pm

What was the question?

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