IMO - 1987 - 4

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IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by Kiriti » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:18 pm

Prove that there is no function \(f\) from the set of non-negative integers into itself
such that \(f(f(n)) = n + 1987\) for every \(n\) ;)
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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by Kiriti » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:40 pm

এখানে , \( f(f(n)) = n + 2014\) হইলেও কোন সমস্যা নাই । তার প্রমান,

\( f(f(0)) = f(k) = 2014\) । এখানে, \(f(0) = k\) ধরি । এখন \(f(0) = k\) তারমানে \(f(k) = 2014\) এখন, \(f(2014) = f(f(k)) = k + 2014 \) (এখানে \(2014 = f(k)\) বসিয়ে পাই )
আবার, \(f(f(2014) = f(k+2014) = k+2014\) যেখানে, \(k+2014 = f(2014)\) ।
এখন , \(f(k+2014) = k+2014\) তাই \( f(f(k+2014) = k+2014\)...... (1)
কিন্তু আমরা জানি, \( f(f(k+2014) = k+2014 +2014\) কিন্তু (1) থেকে পাই \( f(f(k+2014) = k+2014\) । যেহুতু \( k + 2014 \) আর \(k+ 2014 +2014 \) অসমান তাই এমন কোন \(f\) থাকা সম্ভব না :mrgreen:
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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by asif e elahi » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:46 pm

Kiriti wrote: আবার, \(f(f(2014) = f(k+2014) = k+2014\) যেখানে, \(k+2014 = f(2014)\) ।
How \(f(f(2014) = f(k+2014) = k+2014\) ?

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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by Kiriti » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:03 pm

\( f(k) = 2014\) আবার \(f(f(k)) = k+2014 \) তারমানে \( f(2014) = k+2014\) ।
আবার \( f(f(2014)) = f(k+2014) = k+2014\) । এখানে পাওয়া যায় যে, \(f(k+2014) = k+2014\)
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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by Nirjhor » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:04 pm

f(f(2014)) = 2014 + 2014 = 4028

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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by asif e elahi » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:31 pm

Kiriti wrote:
$f(k+2014) = k+2014$
Can you explain this part?

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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by sadman sakib » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:48 pm

Kiriti , IMO এর সবগুলো প্রশ্ন কোথায় পেতে পারি বলতে পার ? আমি artofproblemsolving এ সবগুলো পাচ্ছি না ।

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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by Tahmid » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:37 pm

sadman sakib.......... the IMO compendium নামে একটা বই আছে । সেখানে 1959-2004 পর্যন্ত IMO এর প্রশ্ন পাবে । IMO shortlist এর problem গুলাও আছে। :)

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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by sadman sakib » Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:59 am

Tahmid , এখন আবার বই পাব কোথায় ? বরং একটা link দিতে পারবা ?

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Re: IMO - 1987 - 4

Unread post by Kiriti » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:59 pm

নেটে সার্চ দিয়া দেখো ।
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