Some problems to solve

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Some problems to solve

Unread post by Abdul Muntakim Rafi » Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:47 am

1. Given that \[7^{x+7}=8^x \]
and \[x=\log _{b}7^7\]
what is the value of $b$?

2.If $A + B =1, B + C = 2, C + D = 3, ...... X + Y = 25, Y + Z = 26$, find $A – Z$.

3.The equation \[x^3 +3xy + y^3 = 1\]
is solved in integers. Find the possible values of
$x+y$.
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by nafistiham » Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:18 pm

$1.$
given that,
\[7^{x+7}=8^{x}\]
\[\Rightarrow 7^{x}\cdot 7^{7}=8^{x}\]
\[\Rightarrow7^{7}=\left ( \frac{8}{7} \right )^{x}\]
now,\[x=\log_{b}7^7\]
\[\Rightarrow x=\log_{b}\left ( \frac{8}{7} \right )^x\]
\[\Rightarrow\log_{b}\left ( \frac{8}{7} \right )=1\]
\[\Rightarrow\log_{b}\left ( \frac{8}{7} \right )=\log_bb\]
\[\Rightarrow\therefore b=\frac{8}{7}\]

$2.$
here, we just have to subtract the summation of the even equations from the summation of the odd equations.
which means,we'll get
\[A+B-B-C+C+D-D-E+........-Y-Z=-1\]

$3.$

here,
\[x^3+3xy+y^3\]
by trial and error we get that,
$x=2$ and $y=-1$
so,
\[x+y=1\]
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by Abdul Muntakim Rafi » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:51 am

You are right about the 1st and 3rd problem. :D

1.I had a similar approach in 1.

3.Hey,is there any way except using trial and error. I used $a^3+b^3$ formula and showed the equation would be right if $x+y=1$ But don't we have to be sure that there are no other solutions.

2.Is your calculation right?
And is the question right? Cause $A+B=1,B+C=2,.............,Y+Z=25$ . $Y+Z$ should be equal to $25$. but the question says $Y+Z=26$
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by nafistiham » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:28 pm

about $2.$
i also tried with $x^3+y^3$ theorem,but could not complete.plse mention the solution.

and, we have to be sure that there is no other solution but $x+y=1$ but, i am not sure how to do it. :?

$3.$
yap, there is a problem in the question.
if, $A+B=1,B+C=2$ and the sequence go thus, then how can $X+Y$ be $26$? :?
actually, i didn't see this at the first place. so, i could solve it thinking $X+Y=26$.
but, as it should be $X+Y=25$, i can find out $A+Z$ not $A-Z$.where did you get this question?
i think t would be better to be sure whether it is right or not.i am totally confused.till now i think we cant find out $A-Z$ from the given properties even if $X+Y=25$
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by Abdul Muntakim Rafi » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:21 pm

Bogura Higher Secondary 2011... I have tried another way... First assign a value of A... Then see what you get for Z...Then we can get $A-Z$ easily... That gives 13 as an answer if u take $A$ to be $0$. But this gives different values for different values of A. So it's not logical at all.
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by nafistiham » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:04 pm

here it is not said that the values are integers
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by Labib » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:32 pm

Rafi, there was a definite prob with no. 2. I did solve it a few days ago, taking y+z=25.
First prob was an easy one. I had the same approach.
3rd prob has another solution. Consider $(x,y)=(-1,-1)$.
I checked all the cases.
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by nafistiham » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:06 pm

@labib
bhya, plz show the solution of $2$ or give a clue
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by Labib » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:25 pm

Tiham, I solved it for A+z, vai... :p
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Re: Some problems to solve

Unread post by nafistiham » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:42 pm

ohhh!! you just have poured cold water on my dreams.

so, i am expressing the way to get $A+Z$

to sum up all the equations we get
\[A+2B+2C+2D+............+2Y+Z=1+2+3+........+25\]
\[\Rightarrow (A+Z)+2(B+C+D+........Y)=325\]
\[\Rightarrow (A+Z)+2\left \{(B+C)+(D+E)+(F+G)+......(X+Y)\right \}=325\]
\[\Rightarrow (A+Z)+2(2+4+6+........24)=325\]
\[\Rightarrow (A+Z)+312=325\]
\[\Rightarrow (A+Z)=13\]

:D :D :D
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